You Asked For It: Faith vs Works

June 1, 2025

Pastor Josh Starnes presented today's message, "You Asked For It: Faith vs Works" A video of today's message is here on YouTube. This series started with folks being asked to submit scriptures that they would like explained/explored. So, it's quite literally: "You asked for it!"

Today's topic is Faith versus Works: Romans 4:1-5, James 2:14-17, and Ephesians 2:4-10.

Josh started the message with a brief rundown of the Exodus events from the Israelite slaves in Egypt crying out for God's help all the way to the Israelites receiving the Ten Commandments at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 1-20). Among the several things he highlighted was the 4th Commandment: "Do not take the Lord's name in vain" which is not a great translation of the Hebrew. Learning about what this commandment really means is one of the great Ah-ha moments of my life which came early in my studies of the Torah and drove me to learn more and more. I explain much of it here: Oh My God, No Message Recording.

Interestingly, the whole of Josh's message hit upon another Ah-ha moment during my Torah studies, settling in my mind an issue that had been rolling around most of my life. The issue is: "What's the right balance of faith versus works?" Which gets one saved?" Did the new covenant (agreement between God and Man) nullify the old covenant? What's the place/need of the Old Testament for Christians? Certainly, it doesn't mean that how we behave doesn't matter any longer.

What I've learned aligns well with what Josh said in his message: "Faith in Jesus is what is required for salvation, period. Works (following God's laws, serving others, etc.) is our response to that gift of salvation. Good works demonstrate to the world that we have that faith and also shows God's ways in a good light to the world. Put in reverse, religious people that act poorly (in opposition to God's laws) reflect badly on God and degrade His reputation. So, "Be a light unto the nations." The Menorah (a candelabra) is a symbol of that phrase from the Book of Isaiah and is the official symbol of the State of Israel.

Here are two previous essays on this topic:
Galatians #1: Jesus Did Everything
He Is Risen Indeed!


Bonus


No Such Thing as Righteous Anger

Focus on the Family is offering a series of five short videos (each under 5 minutes) in which Brant Hansen, author of Unoffendable, is being interviewed by Jim Daly. These videos are free to watch: sign up.

From the webpage: "As sinners who have experienced God's grace and forgiveness, Christians should be the least likely to be surprised and offended by the words and actions of our fellow sinners. Unfortunately, we tend to become angry at those around us—and hold on to that anger—when we have no right to do so. There's a better way! Learn why "righteous anger" is not a biblical concept. Discover the power of forgiveness even in the face of unspeakable evil. Learn how to become unoffendable at home, in the workplace, and anywhere you interact with others."

Brant makes it clear that letting go of your anger is not saying that the behavior you're mad about is right or OK. You still may need to take some kind of action. But anger is never the appropriate action.

Here are the titles of the five videos:

The Struggle with Righteous Anger
Forgiveness in a Broken World
Letting Go of Anger: A Journey of Peace
The Power of Ongoing Forgiveness
Grace at Home: Navigating Anger


Bonus2


Shavuot / Pentecost

This coming Sunday (6/8/25) is Pentecost for Christians - 50 days after Easter. For the Jewish community, 50 days after Passover is Shavuot, Festival of Weeks (referring to seven weeks after Passover). Shavuot started on 6/1/25 and ends(ed) at nightfall on June 3rd. Pentecost (Acts 2) is when the Holy Spirit descended upon the disciples who were likely all together because they were celebrating Shavuot (much like the Last Supper was likely a Passover celebration). Shavuot celebrates God's giving of the Ten Commandments at Mt. Sinai. For more discussion, see Bonus: Shavuot (שָׁבוּעוֹת) and Pentecost (Πεντηκοστή). This was the topic for our Family Dinner last Saturday evening.

While Passover celebrates freedom from external bondage (slavery in Egypt), Shavuot celebrates freedom from internal bondage (by providing rules to live well by). The Holy Spirit comes to everyone with Pentecost just as the Torah comes to everyone with Shavuot.

For a little more about the Feast of Weeks / Shavuot, see: What is the Feast of Weeks? and/or What Is Shavuot?.


And here's an interesting article about Shavuot and Pentecost from the point of view of a Messianic Jewish community. (Messianic Jews are Jews who believe in Jesus.) The Power of the Feast of Weeks.


Bonus3


Service to Others / Inspiration for Others

    

Lynn and I watched two documentaries the other night, both on Netflix: The Quilters and Air Force Elite: Thunderbirds.

Both had been recommended to us very recently. In fact, the one about the Thunderbirds was recommended to us just last Thursday by a couple who shared the moment with us atop the Hotel Polaris by the U.S. Air Force Academy during graduation ceremonies when it was announced that the Thunderbirds were canceled due to weather. We still got to watch them that night via this documentary, up close and personal.

The two stories, completely different in nature, do have two themes in common: service to others and inspiration for others. Pursuing both can bring out the best in just about anybody regardless of their standing in society.


May 22, 2018: Thunderbirds at the USAF Academy Graduation Ceremony.

Index to Weekly Essays

Questions and comments are welcome: Torah@JF2.com. See CQ&A.

Most recent first:

6/8/25: You Asked: Ask, Seek, Knock
6/1/25: You Asked: Faith vs Works
5/25/25: You Asked For It: Intro
5/18/25: Relationships Are Everything
5/11/25: Biblical Finance
5/4/25: What Do You Prioritize?
4/27/25: Stop Negative Thoughts
4/20/25: Find New Life
4/13/25: SOZO: Now What?
4/6/25: SOZO: Trust the Process
3/30/25: Why Doesn't God Always Heal
3/23/25: SOZO: Healing is a Choice
3/16/25: SOZO: True Freedom
3/9/25: SOZO: Free from Sin
3/2/25: SOZO: Freedom
2/23/25: SOZO: Saved
2/16/25: SOZO: Finding Wholeness
2/9/25: Mouth: Bragging
2/2/25: Mouth: Gossip
1/26/25: Mouth: Lying
1/19/25: Mouth: Cynicism/Faith
1/12/25: Mouth: Criticizing
1/5/25: Mouth: Complaining
12/29/24: Home for the Holidays
12/22/24: Love With Action
12/15/24: Find True Joy
12/8/24: Unwrap the Gift of Peace
12/1/24: Hope in the Darkness
11/24/24: Trust in the Waiting
11/17/24: Gal.: Carry Others' Burdens
11/10/24: Gal.: Battle Within Us
11/3/24: Gal.: Live in Freedom
10/27/24: Gal.: Embracing Our Identity
10/20/24: Gal.: Purpose of the Law
10/13/24: Galatians: Live by Faith
10/6/24: Galatians: Justified by Faith
9/29/24: Galatians: Jesus Did It All
9/22/24: Holy Spirit: Filled/Permeates
9/15/24: Holy Spirit: Power
9/8/24: Holy Spirit: Intro
9/1/24: Process of Becoming
8/25/24: Build a Gathering
8/18/24: Get Planted
8/11/24: Meta: Who Do You Say I Am?
8/4/24: Meta: Living Water
7/28/24: Meta: Be Pruned and Abide
7/21/24: Meta: GPS ("the Way")
7/14/24: Meta: Knowledge to Action?
7/7/24: Meta: Resurrection & the Life
6/30/24: Metaphors: Good Shepherd
6/23/24: Metaphors: I am the Door
6/16/24: Metaphors: Light of the World
6/9/24: Metaphors: Bread of Life
6/2/24: Metaphors: Introduction
5/26/24: Living Together: Conflict
5/19/24: Living Together: Generations
5/12/24: Living Together: Family
5/5/24: Living Together: Marriage
4/28/24: That Hurt: You (Guilt)
4/21/24: That Hurt: God's People
4/14/24: That Hurt: Acts of God
4/7/24: That Hurt: Forgiveness
3/31/24: He Is Risen Indeed!
3/24/24: BMN: Relationships
3/17/24: BMN: Work
3/10/24: BMN: Emotions
3/3/24: BMN: Mental Health
2/25/24: BMN: Financial Freedom
2/18/24: Be Made New: Stress
2/11/24: Be Made New: Spiritually
2/4/24: Be Made New: Truth
1/28/24: Who are You Following?
1/21/24: Where Are You Going?
1/14/24: Change Your Direction
1/7/24: Finding God's Path
12/31/23: Home 4the Holidays
12/24/23: Christmas Eve
12/17/23: Building Families
12/10/23: Make Room
12/3/23: Ephesians #13
11/26/23: Ephesians #12
11/19/23: Ephesians #11
11/12/23: Ephesians #10
11/5/23: Ephesians #9
10/29/23: Ephesians #8
10/22/23: Ephesians #7
10/15/23: Ephesians #6
10/8/23: Ephesians #5
10/1/23: Ephesians #4
9/24/23: Ephesians #3
9/17/23: Ephesians #2
9/10/23: Ephesians #1
9/3/23: What's Your Identity?
8/27/23: Get Rid of Bitterness
8/20/23: Justice vs Revenge
8/13/23: Don't Drink the Poison
8/6/23: All Happens for a Reason
7/30/23: God Helps Those...
7/23/23: What He Can Handle
7/16/23: Treasure/Money
7/9/23: Following JC Makes Life Easier
7/2/23: Time Heals All Wounds
6/25/23: This Too Shall Pass
6/18/23: Forgive and Forget
6/11/23: Don't Follow Your Heart
6/4/23: Misquoted
5/28/23: More Meals, Less Messages
5/21/23: Grace and Truth
5/14/23: Community/Communion
5/7/23: Circles > Rows
4/30/23: Old School: 4
4/23/23: Old School: 3
4/16/23: Old School: 2
4/9/23: Old School: 1
4/2/23: Life You've Wanted: 9
3/26/23: Life You've Wanted: 8
3/19/23: Life You've Wanted: 7
3/12/23: Life You've Wanted: 6
3/5/23: Life You've Wanted: 5
2/26/23: Life You've Wanted: 4
2/19/23: Life You've Wanted: 3
2/12/23: Life You've Wanted: 2
2/5/23: Life You've Wanted: 1
1/29/23: Life You've Wanted: Intro
1/22/23: Detox #3
1/15/23: Detox #2
1/8/23: Detox #1
1/1/23: New Year's Day
12/25/22: Bonus: Ten Commandments
12/18/22: The Gift: 3
12/11/22: The Gift: 2
12/4/22: The Gift: 1
11/27/22: Book of James: 8
11/20/22: Book of James: 7
11/13/22: Book of James: 6
11/6/22: Book of James: 5
10/30/22: Book of James: 4
10/23/22: Book of James: 3
10/16/22: Book of James: 2
10/9/22: Book of James: 1
10/2/22: Re-Assembly Required: 4
9/25/22: Re-Assembly Required: 3
9/18/22: Re-Assembly Required: 2
9/11/22: Re-Assembly Required: 1
9/4/22: Vision Sunday
8/28/22: Outdoors/Baptisms
8/21/22: Temple: 3
8/14/22: Temple: 2
8/7/22: Temple: 1
7/31/22: Extraordinary: 10
7/24/22: Extraordinary: 9
7/17/22: Extraordinary: 8
7/10/22: Extraordinary: 7
7/3/22: Extraordinary: 6
6/26/22: Extraordinary: 5
6/19/22: Extraordinary: 4
6/12/22: Extraordinary: 3
6/5/22: Extraordinary: 2
5/29/22: Extraordinary: 1
5/22/22: Mindset
5/15/22: Heart & Soul: 5 (Contribute)
5/8/22: Heart & Soul: 4 (Growth)
5/8/22: Mothers Day, Louisiana
5/1/22: Heart & Soul: 3 (Connection)
4/24/22: Heart & Soul: 2 (Worship)
4/17/22: Heart & Soul: 1
4/13/22: Our Passover Seder
4/10/22: Limitless: Sozo'd So That
4/3/22: Limitless: 9 Wholeness
3/27/22: Limitless: 8 Healed
3/20/22: Limitless: 7 Healed
3/13/22: Limitless: 6 Healed
3/6/22: Limitless: 5 Freed
2/27/22: Limitless: 4 Freed
2/20/22: Limitless: 3 Freed
2/13/22: Limitless: 2 Saved
2/6/22: Limitless: 1 Sozo
1/30/22: Chasing Carrots: 4
1/23/22: Chasing Carrots: 3
1/16/22: Chasing Carrots: 2
1/9/22: Chasing Carrots: 1
1/2/22: Home 4the Holidays: 2
12/26/21: Home 4the Holidays: 1
12/19/21: Christmas Stories: 3
12/12/21: Christmas Stories: 2
12/5/21: Christmas Stories: 1
11/28/21: Holy Spirit: Gifts
11/21/21: Holy Spirit: Fruit
11/14/21: Holy Spirit: Filled
11/7/21: Holy Spirit: Power
10/31/21: Holy Spirit: Intro
10/24/21: Answers to Prayer
10/17/21: For Thine Is the Kingdom
10/10/21: Deliver Us from Evil
10/3/21: Forgive Us Our Sins
9/26/21: Daily Bread
9/19/21: Your Will Be Done
9/12/21: Our Father
9/5/21: The Unforgivable Sin
9/5/21: OMG: No Recording
8/29/21: Parenting
8/22/21: Fighting Fair
8/15/21: Money Management
8/8/21: Time Management